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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/2020 10:04 AM, Will Martin
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<div class="">Okay, on THIRD thought, it makes sense because it’s
a command. There is no imperative prefix for the first person
subject, no object, so it’s impossible to follow the rule about
{-chuq} here. The only way to say “we/us” as an imperative
(which always has the second person subject), if you mean
singular you and singular me, is to use {HI-}.</div>
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<p>I don't follow your language here. Imperatives don't have overt
subjects. TKD doesn't make us guess how to prefix reflexive
imperatives: it gives us explicit instructions in sections 4.2.1
and 4.1.2 that reflexive imperatives use <b>yI-</b> for singular
commandees and <b>pe-</b> for plural commandees.</p>
<p>What imperatives don't have is a prefix to refer the commandee to
do something to a second-person object. This is because that is
handled by the reflexive suffixes.</p>
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<div class="">So, the sentence translates as an imperative direct
quote:</div>
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<div class="">“Honor.” Don’t tell me that/Don’t discuss that with
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<p>That's also reasonable. If we suppose that the prefix trick can
override the no-object reflexive rule, a proposition I have little
problem with, then this means <b>HIja'chuqQo'</b><i> </i>equals<b>
jIHvaD yIja'chuqQo'</b> or <b>jIHvaD peja'chuqQo'.</b> The only
exception I have to this reading is that the style of <i>paq'batlh</i>
does not include single-noun sentences like <b>quv,</b> and
quotation is a function of sentences-as-object. The word cannot be
interpreted as a verb in the context in which it appears. I don't
think this is what Okrand had in mind when he translated the
sentence, but it works as well.<br>
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