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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 29, 2020, at 8:47 AM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" class="">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/29/2020 8:22 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Suppose we write:
romuluS wo' wIQaw'chu' 'e' 'oHbe' ngoQmaj'e'
our goal isn't to annihilate the romulan empire
Would there be a problem with a construction as the above ?</pre>
</blockquote><p class="">Unknown.<br class="">
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On one hand, I can't be able to see anything grammatically wrong with it,</pre>
</blockquote><p class="">Here's what might be wrong with it: <b class="">'e'</b> can only be an
object. We don't know if the first noun in a "to be" sentence is
considered an object.</p><p class="">The pronoun in a "to be" sentence doesn't "act upon" an object
the way a verb does. "To be" sentences are said to have subjects,
but in one-noun "to be" sentences, that subject is the pronoun
itself, while in two-noun "to be" sentences, the subject is the
topic noun. So the terminology is very imprecise and unreliable.</p><p class="">And even if we decide to call the first noun an object (just as
in English we can have objects of things that aren't verbs, like
objects of prepositions), the description of <b class="">'e'</b> and <b class="">net</b>
say "They are always treated as the object of the verb..." There
is no verb in a "to be" sentence.</p><p class="">So while it's not impossible that <b class="">'e'</b> could go with a "to
be" sentence, there is no indication that this ever happens.</p><p class="">Besides, in your example you can say the much simpler <b class="">romuluS
wo' Qaw'chu'ghach 'oHbe' ngoQmaj'e'</b><i class=""> Our goal is not the
annihilation of the Romulan Empire.</i><br class="">
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