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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/27/2020 10:48 AM, Will Martin
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It’s odd that he would give a description in TKD that would
accurately apply to syllables ending with {o} and not to the far
more common case of {o} between two consonants.</blockquote>
<p>It wouldn't be odd if Okrand were explaining why <b>ow</b>
doesn't appear at the end of a word instead of explaining <b>o</b>
as a diphthong.</p>
<p>See the original text:</p>
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<p>Note that when a vowel is followed by <b>w</b> or <b>y,</b>
the combination of letters may not represent the same sound it
does in English spelling:</p>
<p>[chart: <b>aw, ay, ey, Iy, oy</b>]</p>
<p>Klingon <b>uy</b> resembles <i>ooey</i> in English <i>gooey.</i>
Klingon <b>ew</b> resembles nothing in English, but can be
approximated by running Klingon <b>e</b> and <b>u</b>
together. Likewise, Klingon <b>Iw</b> is <b>I</b> and <b>u</b>
run together. No words in Klingon have <b>ow</b> or <b>uw.</b>
If they did, they would be indistinguishable from words ending
in <b>o</b> and <b>u,</b> respectively.</p>
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<p>You see the point here is not so much the character of Klingon
vowels as it is how to read various combinations you'll find in
the book. It doesn't say Klingon <b>o</b> sounds like Klingon <b>ow;</b>
it says Klingon words don't end with <b>ow</b> because it would
sound like the word ends in <b>o.</b> This tells me that Klingon
words that end in <b>o</b> end in a diphthong.</p>
<p>Interestingly, of all the listed diphthongs, only <b>aw, ay, ey,
</b><b>oy,</b> and <b>uy</b> allow a glottal stop after them: <b>aw',
ay', ey', oy', uy'.</b> The combinations <b>ew', Iw', </b>and<b>
Iy'</b> do not occur in any word even though there is no rule
against it.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:AD226912-E950-40B8-AEA3-058F38EDCC70@mac.com">Did he
really give us that description ONLY for the syllable {gho-} and
not give us a description for every other use in the language?
REALLY?</blockquote>
<p>Did I say that? Only the syllable <b>gho?</b> I didn't say that.<br>
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