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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/25/2020 8:54 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<div dir="auto">Suppose I'm in one room, gowron is at another, and
I want to say "I go to gowron".</div>
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<div dir="auto">Until some time ago, I would have said {ghawran
vIjaH}, but recently I started wondering whether {jaH} can
indeed take a person as an object.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I'm asking, because writing {ghawran vIjaH} gives
me the impression that at the end of the {jaH}ing, I'll be
actually hugging gowron, standing on him or something similar.</div>
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<p><b>jaH</b> takes the destination as its object. If <b>ghawran</b>
is your destination, then <b>ghawran</b> is the object. His being
a destination doesn't imply that you end up standing on top of
him.<br>
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<div dir="auto">If you think about it, whenever you go to a person
you are actually approaching him, and at the end of the
approaching, the thing which has actually taken place, is that
the initial distance has been considerably decreased.</div>
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<div dir="auto">But you don't actually go *to* him/her, in the
same way you'd go to a place, where you end up standing in/on
that place.</div>
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<p>You're taking things far too literally. The language doesn't work
like that.<br>
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<div dir="auto">So, why not say instead {ghawran vIchol} or
{ghawran vIghoS} ?</div>
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<p>You can say those things. <b>ghawran vIchol</b> doesn't imply
that <b>ghawran</b> is your destination, just that the distance
between you is lessened. <b>ghawran vIghoS</b> implies that <b>ghawran,</b>
as a location, defines your course, and most of the time that'll
be your destination, but it's not required. (For example, consider
the classic problem of the runaway train and the railroad switch.
If I take the left fork, I will run over Gowron. If I take the
right fork, I will run over fifty innocent people. To minimize the
deaths, I turn left. <b>ghawran vIghoS,</b> but Gowron isn't my
destination.)</p>
<p>When you use language, there isn't one precise formulation that
correctly defines the given situation. Language is about
expression, and you can express different things about any
situation. You choose the words that best express what it is about
a situation you want to express.<br>
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