<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 22:52, Will Martin <<a href="mailto:willmartin2@mac.com">willmartin2@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>It’s interesting that the subject of {nob} is the indirect object of {nobHa’}. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It is?</div><div><br></div><div>From The Klingon Way p.189:</div><div>{Huch nobHa'bogh verenganpu''e' yIvoqQo'.} [sic - {yI-} should be {tI-}]</div><div><br></div><div>The subject of {nob} is the giver. The subject of {nobHa'} is also the giver (or giving-back-er). The indirect object in both cases (if you mean a noun with {-vaD}) is the recipient.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>I’m surprised that {nobHa’} isn’t to take something back, rather than to give something back.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I guess I can see the logic in that, but {nobHa'} is very easily explained as "undo giving", and it's open whether the subject of {nobHa'} is the original giver or the original recipient. Perhaps it can work either way, depending on context?</div><div><br></div><div>However, {tlhapqa'} is obviously "retrieve" (take something back).<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>But it’s arbitrary, and this is the official way Klingon’s mean it.</div><br><div>
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