<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/30/2020 8:07 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP7F2cJHUnA+tnqLiLiVJqh4_JBcnD0deS2DYy3jvvBwEL7xKg@mail.gmail.com">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="auto">
<div dir="auto">The suffix {-lI'} is to be used when there's an
ongoing action, proceeding towards a known goal or stopping
point.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">So I wonder..</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">If there's an ongoing action, taking place
during another action, or during a specified time period, then
couldn't that ongoing action be "by definition" described by
the {-lI'} ?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">In other words, if we have a {-taHvIS} during
which an ongoing action takes place, then couldn't this
ongoing action *always* be expressed by the {-lI'} ?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">With the "stopping point" of the {-lI'} being
the end of the action/time period described by the {-taHvIS} ?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>What if the while-clause doesn't have a known stopping point?</p>
<p><b>DIngtaHvIS tera', ghurtaH yIn.<br>
</b><i>While the Earth spins, life is ever-increasing.</i></p>
<p>You wouldn't use a <b>-lI'</b> for that. Sure, life might stop
increasing when the Earth stops spinning, but life is not <i>progressing</i>
toward the day the Earth stops spinning. <b>-lI'</b> doesn't just
mean there is a known stopping point; it means you're making
progress toward it.<br>
</p>
<p>What if the while-clause has a known stopping point that the main
action doesn't share?</p>
<p><b>cholchuqtaHvIS mangghommey, mabomtaH.</b><br>
<i>While the armies approach each other, we keep singing.<br>
</i></p>
<p>We don't have to stop singing when the armies clash. We could
continue to belt out our song joyously as we dismember our
enemies. Our song isn't making progress toward the clash.<br>
</p>
<p>Don't look for a formula for this. Consider the grammar and
choose the suffix called for by your meaning.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
SuStel
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://trimboli.name">http://trimboli.name</a></pre>
</body>
</html>