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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 4, 2020, at 9:15 AM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" class="">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">SuStel:</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">> qama''e' qIppu'bogh neH</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">> the prisoner(s) whom he/she/it(/they) </div>
<div dir="auto" class="">> merely hit</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">> only the prisoner(s) whom </div>
<div dir="auto" class="">> he/she/it(/they) hit </div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Couldn't this mean too "the prisoner who has
been hit by only he/she/they/it" ? i.e. can't the {neH} be
interpreted as acting on the elided subject ?</div>
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</blockquote><p class="">No. You have to have a word there to put <b class="">neH</b> after it.<br class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">SuStel:</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">> qama'e' qIppu'bogh neH ghaH</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">> only the prisoner whom he/she hit</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">> the prisoner whom he/she merely hit </div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">If instead of the {ghaH} we had as a subject not
a pronoun, but a noun, would this change anything ?</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">For example would the following be correct ?</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Qel'e' qIpta'bogh neH la'</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">only the doctor who has been hit by the
commander</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">the doctor who has been merely hit by the
commander </div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Perhaps it's a silly question, but something
confuses me in the sentences where the subject is a pronoun.</div>
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</blockquote><p class="">When a noun is part of a relative clause, you can't apply <b class="">neH</b>
to only part of the relative clause. You can apply <b class="">neH</b> to
just one noun in the relative clause, but not one noun and the
verb if there is another noun in the clause. It's all or nothing.</p><p class="">In <b class="">Qel'e' qIpta'bogh la',</b> the relative clause is the
whole thing, not just <b class="">Qel'e' qIpta'bogh.</b> If you've got <b class="">Qel'e'
qIpta'bogh la',</b> you can't apply a <b class="">neH</b> only to the <b class="">Qel'e'
qIpta'bogh</b> part, because <b class="">la'</b> is part of the clause.</p><p class="">But if you have the relative clause <b class="">Qel'e' qIpta'bogh,</b>
you CAN apply a <b class="">neH</b> to it, because that's the entire
relative clause.</p><p class=""><b class="">Qel'e' qIpta'bogh neH la'</b> can only mean <i class="">the doctor
whom the commander merely hit.</i> The <b class="">neH</b> cannot apply
to the relative clause <b class="">Qel'e' qIpta'bogh,</b> because that
relative clause does not appear here; the clause is all of <b class="">Qel'e'
qIpta'bogh la'.</b> A <b class="">neH</b> could apply to the <b class="">Qel'e',</b>
the <b class="">qIpta'bogh,</b> the <b class="">la',</b> or the <b class="">Qel'e'
qIpta'bogh la',</b> but not just PART of the relative clause.</p><p class="">If you want <i class="">only the doctor whom the commander hit,</i> it's
<b class="">Qel'e' neH qIpta'bogh la'.</b><br class="">
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