<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">You have a good question for which we don’t have a perfect, authoritative answer. Likely, as others have suggested, you could still say {paq mu’ vIjatlh}, since you are saying the books words, whether reading them or speaking from memory, or if you prefer, you could be more explicit and say, {paq mu’ vIqawchu’} and then quote verbatim. It’s reasonable to think that Klingon speakers should understand that.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The thing that Maltz seemed to be revealing is that instead of, as in English, saying “I am reading to you from a book,” or “I am reading a book to you,” which implies, but does not explicitly state that I am making sounds from my mouth while reading in order to share the contents of the book with you, a Klingon makes the more obvious and clear statement that I am speaking the book’s words. It’s another example of Okrand’s inventive capacity to see an activity from an alien perspective, instead of just using the same phrasing we’d use in English.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It makes sense in English. We just never say it that way. It would sound alien to say it that way.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Wow. Klingons are aliens. No wonder they say it that way.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cool.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 29, 2020, at 5:30 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">DeSDu':<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Additionally, when I asked him what the most appropriate way of saying<br class="">"read aloud" (e.g. a book), he said that paq mu'(mey) jatlh would work fine.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">It's always great to receive new info from maltz..<br class=""><br class="">Unfortunately though, I'm afraid that this piece of Ca'Non, solves one<br class="">problem (the problem of "how to say.."), by creating another.<br class=""><br class="">If we talk on the phone, and I say to you {DaH paq mu'mey vIjatlh},<br class="">then according to the newly revealed Ca'Non, the *only* way this is<br class="">understood is, that I'm holding the book reading from the inside.<br class=""><br class="">But what if I'm not actually reading from the inside, but I've<br class="">memorized the passage in question ?<br class=""><br class="">Now, I know what will happen..<br class=""><br class="">Someone will say: "you can't actually be remembering the exact words of a book".<br class=""><br class="">But, as americans say, "speak for yourself".<br class=""><br class="">I've taken exams, where because my life depended on the outcome, I had<br class="">memorized the exact words, down to the letter.<br class=""><br class="">~ mayqel qunen'oS<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org" class="">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</a><br class="">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>