<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><br>
This is something I always had trouble understanding..<br>
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Slang can't be used in formal speech; but can someone use idioms in<br>
formal speech, passages, etc ?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Slang is specifically informal or colloquial speech used by certain social groups. An idiom is a phrase whose actual meaning isn't obvious from the literal meaning of the words in it. Idioms can be colloquial or slang, but they don't have to be.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">For instance, English has phrasal verbs (a verb plus a preposition or adverb), which are idiomatic and in very common use: "give up", "think over", "put up with", "look up", "look after", and so on. Looking up something (as in a dictionary or catalog) does not involve any upward motion or direction. Thinking over something does not involve being spatially located above that thing. <br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">As an example of an idiom being used in a formal, scientific setting, Okrand's Ph.D. dissertation on the Mutsun language has "Her comments about Mutsun are useful, but must be interpreted <u>in light of the fact</u> that Mutsun was, at best, a secondary language for her." (page 6). The underlined phrase is an idiom: the fact does not actually cast any light. The intended meaning is "while considering the fact".<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">The idioms in KGT and elsewhere aren't described as being colloquial or slang, so they're probably fine to use in formal situations.<br></div></div></div>