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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/20/2020 11:08 AM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jevreh@qeylis.net">jevreh@qeylis.net</a> wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">ghaHmo’ qatlh maHvaD maSeng
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Jan 20, 2020, at 08:45, mayqel qunen'oS <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com"><mihkoun@gmail.com></a> wrote:
"why do we cause for us trouble because of him ?"
Which of the following two would you prefer ?
{qatlh ghaHmo' maHvaD maSeng ?}
{qatlh maHvaD ghaHmo' maSeng ?}
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<p>My impression has always been that the relative positions of
adverbials, question words, and syntactic nouns isn't strictly
fixed. Syntactic noun phrases come "before the object noun,"
locative phrases (a kind of syntactic noun phrase) come "at the
beginning of the sentence," and adverbials and the adverbially
acting question words come "at the beginning of the sentence." The
Addendum tells us that an adverbial "precedes the object-verb-noun
construction," and that "an element of another type" can "precede
the adverb," the most common element being a time element.
Syntactic noun phrases are more common than time elements, so does
this not apply to syntactic noun phrases?</p>
<p>Given all that, plus a somewhat scanty list of examples, makes
any of these possible. We are given no information whatsoever as
to whether Klingon has any preference of order for these elements.
I personally tend to put adverbials before syntactic noun phrases,
but I cite no evidence for this practice.<br>
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<p>I would note that your English sentence, <i>Why do we cause for
us trouble because of him,</i> is not well-formed. I don't see
any way to combine the prepositions <i>for us</i> and <i>because
of him</i> and the question word <i>why.</i> This would have to
be recast as something like <i>Why do we cause trouble because of
what he did</i> or <i>Why does his presence make us cause
trouble?</i><br>
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