<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">A way for {‘enteprey’Daq bIHHa’ vIjaH} to make sense:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">“On the Enterprise, I go to the prison.” The action of the sentence happens on the Enterprise. The location of the action is the Enterprise. The action is going to the prison. Unless context dictated otherwise, I’d assume that the Enterprise were in motion toward the prison, and you were on it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Meanwhile, {‘enteprey bIHHa’ vIjaH} simply means, “I’m going to the Enterprise’s prison.” It’s a noun-noun possessive form.<br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:31 AM, De'vID <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" class="">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 at 03:45, Jeffrey Clark <<a href="mailto:jmclark85@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jmclark85@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">A question came up in conversation today about the use of -Daq with object prefixes on verbs of motion.<br class="">
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Would a construction like:<br class="">
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‘enteprey’Daq bIghHa’ vIjaH<br class="">
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Be valid, </blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This seems to be analogous to this canon sentence:</div><div class="">{lupDujHomDaq may'Duj vIchegh} "I return to the battle cruiser on the shuttle"</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So you're on the Enterprise, and you're going to prison. (The prison may or may not be located on the Enterprise.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">See these:</div><div class=""><a href="http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-12-holqed-07-4.txt" class="">http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-12-holqed-07-4.txt</a><br class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/1999/July/msg00312.html" class="">https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/1999/July/msg00312.html</a><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">and would it have any difference of meaning compared to:<br class="">
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‘wnteprey bIghHa’ vIjaH<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""> </div></div>Depends on the context. Here, you're going to the Enterprise prison. It doesn't imply you're already on the Enterprise. Maybe you're being ferried to the Enterprise, to enter its prison, on a shuttlecraft.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Or maybe the Klingons have captured all of Starfleet and are putting the crew of each ship into its own prison, and you're going to the "Enterprise prison" (the prison for the crew of the Enterprise).<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">De'vID</div></div></div>
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