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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think that Jackson is right. AFAIK all the items tagged with {naH} or {naHmey} are Terran:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">banan naH banana
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">mengho' naH mango
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">pIlam naH plum
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ghIrep naHmey grapes
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">per naHmey pears
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">raSber naHmey raspberries
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Sutra'ber naHmey strawberries
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tomat naHmey tomatoes
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">'epIl naHmey apples
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I couldn’t find any native Klingon fruit or vegetables tagged with {naH}. And why would they be? Every Klingon knows what a {peb’ot} or a {Hurgh} is! But what
in the world is a {‘epIl} or a {banan}?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">A few alien fruit, vegetables, plants or animals are preceded by the planet name however :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera’ bIQ lung’a’ alligator, crocodile
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera’ cheS rabbit
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera' la'SIv turtle<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera’ lIr owl<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera' nagh DIr charwI’ snail, slug<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera' na'ran orange
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera' na'ran'a' grapefruit
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera' na'ran wIb lemon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera' peb'ot cucumber
<br>
tera' yav 'atlhqam mushrooms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera’ ‘arDeH ivy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Note that none of these are also tagged with {naH} since everyone knows what they are as there are probably Klingon versions of all these. A {tera’ na’ran’a’}
is that big na’ran-looking thing from Earth, while a {tera' na'ran wIb} is that sour-tasting na’ran-like fruit. (Everyone knows that a proper {na’ran} is sweet!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--<br>
Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ca'Non Master of the Klingons</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jackson Bradley<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">True, but my understanding was that, since it's a word of foreign origin and presumably one only recently borrowed into the language, it requires the *naH* to let everyone know that it's a fruit/vegetable we're
talking about.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">Le lun. 18 nov. 2019, à 12 h 32, Lieven L. Litaer <<a href="mailto:levinius@gmx.de">levinius@gmx.de</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Am 18.11.2019 um 19:21 schrieb Jackson Bradley:<br>
> To be clear: did he say /tanje'rIn/ or /tanje'rIn naH/?<br>
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According to Qov's story, he said {tanje'rIn}.<br>
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But I would not put too much weight on that. It's very likely that he<br>
simply forgot that all fruits have the {naH} complement, and on the<br>
other hand, I have noticed that many people cheat in those cases saying<br>
{'epIl vISop} and everyone understands.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.klingonwiki.net/Word/Tanje-rIn" target="_blank">http://www.klingonwiki.net/Word/Tanje-rIn</a><br>
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I mean, what would be the difference between {tanje'rIn} and {tanje'rIn<br>
naH}? Just my opinion, of course.<br>
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