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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I could find only one example of either method, a NON-CANON line by Qov from DISCOVERY:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">QongtaHvIS HeghDI' SuvwI', 'oynot, Hom je neH yugh.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> (DSC/Qov "Battle At the Binary Stars")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>SuStel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>I see only a cat and the chancellor</i><br>
<b>vIghro' Qang je neH vIlegh</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>vIghro neH Qang neH je vIlegh</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/11/2019 9:06 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">lieven:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">> I think the second is a bit contradictory, from a logical point of view.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Yes, you're right. I noticed that too, while writing the initial message.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">But other than that, does this matter come down to just personal preference ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>No, I think Lieven has it right. The second sentence not only makes no sense, it doesn't say what you want it to say. It's not a matter of preference. You want to say that you see a cat, the chancellor, and nothing else. You construct the noun phrase
<b>vIghro' Qang je</b><i> cat and chancellor,</i> then you modify that to say that that's all you saw:
<b>vIghro' Qang je neH</b><i> only the cat and the chancellor.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>SuStel<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://trimboli.name">http://trimboli.name</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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