<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I like this version MUCH better, since the earlier suggestions seem to be stretching grammar to avoid the “cat in the hat” problem. The original was basically trying to say, “The emperor spoke for those who reclined where he reclined,” and the “where he reclined” is problematic because it really wants to to be a relative clause with the location as the head noun. We can’t do that.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So, {SuStel} avoids the problem entirely by setting the location as a context grammatically independent of the sentence with {jatlh} as the main verb. We already know where the reclining was happening. We know everyone who was reclining. That’s context. He spoke to the others there.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The semicolons could be periods. It doesn’t really matter. We don’t know that the Klingon language distinguishes between the two.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 6, 2019, at 10:52 AM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" class="">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/6/2019 10:05 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:mbu12ecej2jbqc60t1htb4cq.1573052704884@email.android.com" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Suppose I
write:</div>
<br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">{raS retlhDaq
Qot voDleH; pa' Qotbogh je nuvpu'vaD jatlh..}</div>
<br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">for:</div>
<br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">"the emperor
was reclining next to the table; he said for the people who were
reclining there too.."</div>
<br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Would the
klingon sentence be grammatically correct ? I'm troubled by the
{je} following a {-bogh} clause, and I don't know whether the
{pa'} can refer *only* to the {Qotbogh}.</div>
<br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I know I could
express the desired meaning in other ways too, but I can't stop
wondering whether the klingon sentence is actually correct.</div>
</blockquote><p class="">As others have said, it's not grammatically wrong, but it is
difficult to follow, with a locative attached to a relative clause
attached to a beneficiary attached to a verb.</p><p class="">You can simplify it: <b class="">raS retlhDaq Qot voDleH latlh je;
latlhvaD jatlh voDleH...</b><br class="">
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