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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/15/2019 8:14 AM, mayqel qunen'oS
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<div dir="auto">I want to say "klingons fight in order to be
seen".</div>
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<div dir="auto">Suppose I write:</div>
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<div dir="auto">{tlhInganpu' luleghlu'meH Suv tlhInganpu'}</div>
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<div dir="auto">Would it be correct ?</div>
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<div dir="auto">What puzzles me is this..</div>
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<div dir="auto">The way "I've gotten used to the {-meH}", is that
the subject of the {-meH} phrase, is the subject of the phrase
which follows it too.</div>
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<div dir="auto">But is that the case, or can the object of the
{-meH} phrase, be the subject of the phrase which follows it ?</div>
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<div dir="auto">So, could I write {tlhIngan leghmeH romuluSngan,
jach tlhIngan} for "the klingon shouts, in order that the
romulan sees him" ?</div>
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<p>No, the object and/or subject of a purpose clause play no
independent role in the main sentence.</p>
<p>When a purpose clause modifies a noun, there isn't even any
object or subject, e.g., <b>ja'chuqmeH rojHom. </b>It's treated
as an indivisible noun phrase.</p>
<p>When a purpose clause modifies a verb, the clause just hangs off
the front of the main clause without directly participating in it.
<b>jagh luHoHmeH jagh lunejtaH:</b> the purpose clause is not in
any way an object of the main clause.</p>
<p><b>tlhInganpu' luleghlu'meH Suv tlhInganpu'</b> means <i>In
order that Klingons are seen, Klingons fight.</i> <b>tlhIngan
leghmeH romuluSngan jach tlhIngan</b> means <i>In order that
the Romulan sees the Klingon, the Klingon shouts.</i><br>
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