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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 24, 2019, at 9:34 AM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" class="">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/24/2019 9:05 AM, Will Martin
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<div class="">Relative clauses are “light” grammatical tools, ill
suited for heavy grammatical work. If you want to get fancy with
relative clauses, you probably don’t really want to speak
Klingon. You just want to mess with it. Marking the head noun
with {-‘e’} already is about as fancy as Klingon gets with
relative clauses.</div>
</blockquote><p class="">Hang on there. I agree that you shouldn't construct extremely
complicated relative clauses — or any clauses, really. Klingon is
ill-suited to those long Victorian sentences.</p>
<blockquote class=""><p class=""><i class="">No one would have believed in the last years of the
nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly
and closely by intelligences greater than man’s and yet as
mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their
various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps
almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise
the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of
water.</i></p>
</blockquote><p class="">Don't do that. But there are times and situations when longer
sentences might be appropriate in Klingon, and we shouldn't assign
motivations to people who do or hint that they don't belong. What
we <i class="">should</i> do is suggest a better Klingon style and explain
why it's more readable or understandable.<br class="">
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