<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 9/20/2019 2:11 PM, De'vID wrote:<br>
> Kor: Curzon? My dear friend Curzon? I lift my ghopDu' to Curzon Dax!<br>
> Dax: And I, who was Curzon Dax lift my ghopDu' to you. Scorcher burn <br>
> on your fourteenth rib, and your left qIvon aches every time your ship <br>
> hits warp eight.<br>
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Sigh. Then it's just dumb.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">From a writing perspective, it's probably intended to emphasize that Dax is familiar with Klingon customs. It's how Jadzia (re)introduces herself to Kor (from the shooting script at <a href="http://www.st-minutiae.com/resources/scripts/439.txt">http://www.st-minutiae.com/resources/scripts/439.txt</a>):</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"> KOR<br>I am very thirsty.<br><br> DAX<br>Kor, do you remember Curzon Dax?<br><br> KOR<br>Curzon? My dear friend Curzon? I lift my ghoptu to Curzon Dax!<br><br> DAX<br>And I, who was Curzon Dax lift my ghoptu to you.<br> (off his look of disbelief)<br>Scorcher burn on your fourteenth rib, and your left QiVon aches every time your ship hits warp eight.<br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">So the first use of "ghoptu" is just Kor being drunk and dropping Klingon into his Federation Standard. He had just been regaling Quark's Bar with stories of honor and glory and battle, so he was probably in a very {tlhIngan jIH!} sort of mood. Then Dax repeats his phrasing, also using the Klingon words, to emphasize that she knows them. (It also seems that Kor's native dialect has D -> t and drops word-final glottal stops.) <br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">If we take {qIvon} to mean "knee" as the writers intended, for instance as a variant from Kor's native dialect, Dax's use of it would also emphasize that she's Curzon, since someone who didn't know Kor that well might just say {qIv}. If we also take {qIvon} as a standard dialect word for a possibly-vaguely-naughty body part, as suggested by the way Maltz talks about it, it would also emphasize the friendship between Curzon and Kor, because making innuendos and double-entendres seems like the sort of thing Kor and his warrior buddies would get up to.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">It's also possible that {qIvon} is sometimes used as a sort of bawdy slang replacement for {qIv}, because of the phonetic similarity.</div> <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I am, of course, speculating wildly. But I don't think the DS9 writer's room and Maltz are wholly incompatable here. (I wonder if Maltz has ever heard {qIvon} used to mean "knee".)<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div></div></div></div></div>