<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 at 13:47, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">imdb yIpoj.</div><div dir="auto">check imdb.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div>frack mu' lo'taH battlestar galactica, 'ej tv-14 'oH patlhDaj..<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">battlestar galactica, used continuously the word "frack", and it was appropriate for audiences over the age of 14..</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>chIch DayajHa'ba'taH.</div><div><br></div><div>jIjatlhqa': Qutbe' mu'mey. Qut lo'lIj. «ngagh» DamughmeH "frack" DaghItlhDI', mu' Qut DaHechbogh Sovlu'chu'.</div><div><br></div><div>In English so it's clear: what's vulgar isn't the words themselves. It's your usage. </div><div><br></div><div>How many times in Battlestar Galactica does someone use the word "frack" to refer to actual sexual intercourse, suddenly and completely out of context in a situation where they're talking about something completely unrelated? The issue isn't the *word* {ngagh} or the *word* "frack": the issue is that you're using the word *as a vulgarity*.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto">vaj, 'o qeylIS ! frack mu' vIjatlhpu' !</div><div dir="auto">so, oh qeylIS ! I said the frack word !</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">naDev, 'op puq tu'lu', 'ej wa'maH loS DIS ben boghpu'be !</div><div dir="auto">I offended the other children here, who're under 14 years old !</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I started studying Klingon as a teenager, though I think I only joined the mailing list later. But there are, in fact, younger people who may read this mailing list. </div><div><br></div><div>How many people read this mailing list, see hostile or vulgar messages, and decide not to participate because they don't want to interact with what they see? I'm not singling you out: as you said, I also pointed out the section of the FAQ about vulgar language to SuStel. The rule about vulgarity is there for a reason: to maintain the list as a welcoming environment for the largest number of people.</div><div><br></div><div>I think the list has at least a few lurkers, who would participate more if there were fewer arguments and other off-putting behaviour from list members.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">'ej safe sex mu'mey QoytaHvIS 'op nuvpu', ngugh qaS lot ! 'InSep QanwI'mey qelnISmo'..</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">vaj, teenager ghaHtaHvIS nuv'e', not aids junmeH ghojmoHlu'..</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And because the idea of a condom is offensive, no teenager should be taught about safe sex..</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If you want to write a post about safe sex, and use {ngagh}, {qey'Hav}, {'InSep}, and so on, in a clinical, medical way, as one would write an information pamphlet directed at teenagers, I promise you no one will tell you that it's vulgar. (In fact, I challenge you to write such a post.)</div><div> </div><div>If you want to complain about something in Klingon, and pepper your Klingon text with swear words, I promise you no one will tell you that it's inappropriate for this mailing list, even if you provide an English translation where the Klingon swear words are translated as "frack" in the manner of Battlestar Galactica. </div><div><br></div><div>The *words themselves* are not why your posts are vulgar.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto">wejpuH..</div><div dir="auto">pathetic.. </div></div>
</blockquote></div><div><br></div>wejpuH indeed. You're clearly deliberately pretending to misunderstand.<br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">De'vID</div></div>