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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/27/2019 2:46 AM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 15:25,
SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name"
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6/26/2019 9:17 AM, Lieven L. Litaer wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Am 26.06.2019 um 14:48 schrieb
mayqel qunen'oS: <br>
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curiosity, since I can't think of an example.. <br>
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Lets say we have a {-bogh} phrase, e.g. {bartIq leghbogh
vIghro'}. <br>
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Is there a rule which prohibits, one of the nouns having
a type-5, e.g. <br>
{-'e'}, <b
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at the same time the other noun having a type-5 too,
e.g. <br>
{-mo'}, {-Daq}, {-vo'}, {-vaD} ? <br>
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I don't know such a rule: <br>
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{bartIqDaq bachbogh vIghro'mo' jIHagh.} <br>
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<p>I think what he means is that the type 5 suffixes apply
to the relative clause as a whole, not to noun phrases
added to the relative clause.</p>
<p>For instance, you can say <b>bartIqDaq leghbogh vIghro'
jIba'</b><i> I sit on the branch that the cat sees.</i>
The <b>-Daq</b> on the head noun turns the entire
relative clause into a locative.</p>
<p>What mayqel seems to be asking is whether you could add
another type 5 to the other noun in the relative clause
and also have that apply to the main clause. For instance,
<b>bartIqDaq leghbogh vIghro'mo' jIba'.</b> I don't think
this works, because it would make the relative clause,
which is a noun phrase, have multiple syntactic roles,
which is generally forbidden.</p>
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<div>Not sure if this works or not, but it's not immediately
obvious to me why it doesn't:<br>
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<div>qeylIS'e' lIjlaHbe'bogh vay'vaD gha'tlhIq vIbom.</div>
<div>I will sing an ode of respect for the one who cannot forget
KAHLESS.</div>
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<p>It doesn't work because <b>-'e'</b> in a relative clause makes
the noun it's attached to the head noun of the clause. I don't
think you get to choose whether it means head noun or emphasis.</p>
<p>When <b>-'e'</b> is performing its role as marking emphasis,
it's not really working as a syntactic marker, and is only
technically a type 5 suffix. If you could choose emphasis over
head noun marker, then your sentence would work, but it wouldn't
really be an example of what mayqel is asking about.<br>
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