<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Since when has any suffix besides -'e' been legal on either noun which is the subject or object of a relative verb? Did Okrand change his statement that he couldn't make it work as anything but subject or object and I missed it?</div><div><br></div><div>ter'eS</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> </div><div>Date: 6/27/19 8:08 AM (GMT-06:00) </div><div>To: tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org </div><div>Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] two type-5 on a {-bogh} phrase </div><div><br></div></div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/27/2019 9:00 AM, Daniel Dadap
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Jun 27, 2019, at 01:46, De'vID <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com></a> wrote:
qeylIS'e' lIjlaHbe'bogh vay'vaD gha'tlhIq vIbom.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Why not {qeylISvaD lIjlaHbe'bogh vay'}?</pre>
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<p>These mean very different things.</p>
<p>Assuming we are allowed to use <b>-'e'</b> for emphasis in a
relative clause, which I am not convinced we are, we have</p>
<p><b>qeylIS'e' lIjlaHbe'bogh vay'vaD gha'tlhIq vIbom<br>
</b><i>I sing an ode of respect to someone who has not forgotten
KAHLESS (as opposed to someone who has not forgotten someone
else).</i></p>
<p><b>qeylISvaD lIjlaHbe'bogh vay' gha'tlhIq vIbom<br>
</b><i>I sing an ode of respect to Kahless the Unforgettable.</i><br>
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