<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">There are degrees of being “wrong”. {chaHDaq Hopbogh Daq tu’lu’} doesn’t technically break any grammar rules. It’s just making an entire separate sentence out of a location reference. Ironically, it requires context to make any sense. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I mean, listen to yourself. “One finds a place distant from their location.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That doesn’t really tell us much, and you spent time and words failing to tell us anything that isn’t obvious. OF COURSE THERE IS A PLACE DISTANT FROM THEM. There is ****ALWAYS*** a place distant from them. EVERY place has another place distant from it. So?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Check out these two expressions in English:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. I drank lemonade. There exists a place far away from that place. My cousin drank tea at that place.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2. I drank lemonade. Far away, my cousin drank tea.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Not only is the second expression more concise. It is less confusing. Maybe my cousin and I drank our fluids in the same place and then there’s some other place that exists and we know nothing of what happens there, beyond its distant existence.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So, Jesus and some ghosts chatted. A large group of distant pigs gathered.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s pretty obvious that the Jesus didn’t chat near the pigs. They are distant pigs. If they were near Jesus, they wouldn’t be distant pigs. They’d just be pigs.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan<br class=""><br class="">rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.</div>
</div>
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 16, 2019, at 8:59 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">I too prefer using just {Hop}, as SuStel suggested, but I still don't<br class="">understand.<br class=""><br class="">Is the {chaHDaq Hopbogh Daq tu'lu'} wrong ? Or is it just "too<br class="">much"/"more than necessary" ?<br class=""><br class="">~ m. qunen'oS<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org" class="">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</a><br class="">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>