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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/13/2019 7:15 PM, Daniel Dadap
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<div dir="ltr">On Jun 13, 2019, at 08:59, SuStel <<a
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<p><b>DaqvamDaq yIghoS</b> (commanding multiple people)</p>
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<p>Meanwhile, <b>DaqvamDaq peghoS</b> would mean that
while you are in this place, you should go somewhere.</p>
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<div>Thanks. That matched my understanding.</div>
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<div>I’ve seen “locative” used for {-Daq} before but until
your recent message I don’t think I’ve seen “ablative” for
{-vo'}. Is this a common convention, or just something that
you use personally? Could {-vaD} be described as “dative”,
using this same alien grammatical terminology? Maybe causal
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<p>Most people don't say <i>ablative,</i> but it fits, is
convenient, and corresponds to <i>locative.</i> <b>-vaD</b>
isn't dative because it's also benefactive. You could use <i>dative</i>
or <i>benefactive</i> when describing a sentence that clearly has
one or the other of these senses, but they're not separate noun
cases in Klingon. Unless there is a noun case out there that
combines these two, <i>dative/benefactive</i> is the best you're
going to get. <i>Causal</i> works for <b>-mo',</b> but I prefer
<i>causative,</i> simply because it fits in with the others.</p>
These are just words to describe Klingon, not inherent properties of
the language.<br>
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