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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/2019 12:49 AM, Ed Bailey wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 6:36 PM Daniel Dadap <<a
href="mailto:daniel@dadap.net" moz-do-not-send="true">daniel@dadap.net</a>>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
don’t remember ever seeing a rule against using type nine verb
suffixes with an imperative prefix. At the same time, I also
cannot think of any sane reason one would want to do this, nor
can I coax any example I can think of where a verb has both an
imperative prefix and a type nine suffix into making any kind
of sense.<br>
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I’m pretty sure that type nine suffixes and imperative
prefixes can’t coexist, but maybe I’m just not being
imaginative enough. Can anybody think of an example where a
type nine suffix somehow marks an imperative verb and actually
means something useful?<br>
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<div>Possibly it seems like there's no sane reason because
literal translation won't work. Likewise, Klingons might think
it's insane to have a sentence like, "Identify the ship in
which he fled!" Languages have plenty of expressions that
don't make literal sense, like "What does God need with a
starship?"</div>
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<div>While there's no reason to believe Type 9 suffixes are ever
used on verbs with imperative prefixes, who wants to walk into
a bar full of Klingons and tell them they're not allowed to?
So let's suppose Klingons actually do this and we cobble
together an example and try to figure out what meaning it's
supposed to convey. For instance, <b>*yIruchchugh bIQap!</b>
Weird, but I'd guess it's something like a condensed version
of <b>yIruch! bIruchchugh bIQap</b> or <b>yIruch bIruchchugh
bIQapmo'!</b> Perhaps it's more exhortative than imperative.</div>
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<p>You're basically suggesting that we speculatively invent new
grammar. I don't see this as particularly constructive, since at
the end of the day you have to admit that you made it all up
anyway, and in the meantime there's a very real chance that
someone will read the speculation and not realize you're just
speculating.</p>
<p>I don't think you can use type 9 suffixes on imperative verbs.<br>
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