<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Perhaps:<div><br></div><div>lod be’ ghap ghaHbe’ ghotvetlh’e’<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On May 28, 2019, at 19:54, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 28, 2019, 16:54
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<div>Would the following construction be valid?</div>
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loD ghaHbe’ be’ ghaHbe’ je ghotvetlh’e’.
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<div dir="auto">Since {loD ghaHbe'} and {be' ghaHbe'} are
sentences, you'd need {'ej}; I think {loD ghaHbe' 'ej be'
ghaHbe' ghotvetlh'e'} works, though of course I'm no expert.</div>
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<p>I also don't know whether two "to be" sentences can share a
subject/topic like that. It's an interesting question.<br>
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<div dir="auto">jatlh charghwI':</div>
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<div dir="auto">>Yes, but they are ALIENS. They OBVIOUSLY are
not men or women, even if they ARE male or female.</div>
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<div dir="auto">>That’s why I picked {rur} instead of a
pronoun, since we know from describing colors and such that
{rur} is used when you are comparing an aspect of something to
another thing, even when the things themselves are not generally
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<div dir="auto">novpu' maHmo', loD SoHbe' 'ej be' jIHbe', qar'a'?</div>
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<div dir="auto">But I do agree that a lot of the aspects of
language are arbitrary; there's nothing about English-speaking
culture that makes us need to mark tense on all our verbs, or
put an article in front of all our singular nouns, for example.
As John McWhorter says, language tends to ooch along like a lava
lamp, and one usually can't predict what state it will ooch to
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<p>I had to stop listening to John McWhorter; he doesn't study
linguistics so much as push a linguistic agenda.</p>
<p>There's nothing that makes us need to mark tense on all our
verbs, but there are historical reasons that we do. It didn't
arise out of nothing.</p>
<p>Languages evolve in very much the same way that species evolve.
There's nothing that makes us need to have an appendix on our
large intestine, but there are good reasons we have one. It's very
disadvantageous that the left recurrent laryngeal nerve loops all
the way down and under the aortic arch, but there's a reason so
many animals have this anatomy. It's not arbitrary. It may not be
useful to us, but it's not arbitrary.<br>
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