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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/24/2019 8:57 AM, Daniel Dadap
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On May 24, 2019, at 02:17, Lieven L. Litaer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:levinius@gmx.de" moz-do-not-send="true"><levinius@gmx.de></a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Am 24.05.2019 um 02:53 schrieb SuStel:
I don't see how this leaves the apostrophe (U+0027) an acceptable
character to use.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Oh, I think you misunderstood me here. In my first messages I wrote
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">You have weird apostrophes there.
I suggest simple ' or fancy ’, but never ‘.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">This means I suggest U+0027 and U+2019, but never U+2018. It's only this
last one I say you should not use.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">SuStel isn’t asking this question because <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>he<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> thinks U+0027 is an unacceptable choice, but rather to ask why, given the reasons you listed for why U+2019 is a better choice, why U+0027 is acceptable as well. Indeed, this question refers back to the very same first message that you quoted above.
I suspect SuStel has his own reasons for thinking U+0027 is acceptable, as he consistently uses it to represent qaghwI'.</pre>
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<p>Two reasons. One, because it's a lot easier to type ' on my US
English keyboard than it is to type Alt-0146. And two,
specifically because the glottal stop does not perform the
function of an English right single quotation mark, it makes sense
to me to use a symbol that is not a right single quotation mark.
On my website I try to use the typographically preferred quotation
marks in English, but I intentionally used the ASCII apostrophe
for the Klingon. It was my typographic choice, not a statement of
which symbol is "correct."</p>
<p>(I believe I let the glottal stops in the names of <b>qep'a'mey</b>
remain as right single quotation marks, probably through
overlooking them.)<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> I agree with both you and SuStel that U+2019 is the most aesthetically pleasing choice within the apostrophe/single-quote family, but I personally use U+0027 because I come from a pre-Unicode generation of computer users that frets over things like text encodings. Of course, I love Unicode (and would love it even more if it had an official mapping for pIqaD), and any computing device worth its salt these days will have proper support for Unicode, but nevertheless I retain a (mostly philosophical) preference for staying restricted to 7-bit ASCII for basic Latin script texts, which includes Klingon in the standard Okrandian orthography.
Everybody knows the only reason someone would use a left single quotation mark as a qaghwI' is because of “helpful” auto-correct “smart” quotes. I use them myself sometimes when I’m writing on a device that doesn’t make it easy to write the good old ASCII apostrophe. I don’t think anybody is making the conscious choice to use that character for qaghwI' unless they’re trying to be silly, like I was a few messages ago on this thread. And even if somebody did choose to do so intentionally for reasons other than being silly, so what? The worst thing you could really say about it is that it’s ugly, and others are free to disagree with that. Or, as De'vID mentioned, it could affect text searches, but any situation outside of “one true qaghwI'” will require some sort of concession to make text searches work, anyway.</pre>
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<p>choyajchu'pu', Daniel. pov QIjpu'ghachlIj.<br>
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SuStel
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