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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/17/2019 2:00 PM, Alan Anderson
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255,
0);">On May 17, 2019, at 1:33 PM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a
href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto"><font color="#000000"><span
style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color:
rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">And (the subject of this
thread), in order to say "someone sees all cats", we
*have* to place the {-mey} on the noun after the {Hoch},
thus writing {Hoch vIghro'mey luleghlu'}.</span></font></div>
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I<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">n my
internalized model of how {Hoch X} works,</span> the alternative
{Hoch vIghro' luleghlu'} violates a kind of {rom}. The plural
indication of the verb prefix isn’t strong enough to coerce {Hoch
vIghro'} into meaning {Hoch vIghro'mey}.</blockquote>
<p>I see the prefix as entirely passive. It agrees with the subject
and some object, whether or not those subjects or objects are
present in the sentence. The prefix never enforces person or
number on its own.</p>
<p>This is why it drives me nuts when people say things like <b>maghom
Hoch</b> for <i>We all meet.</i> The prefix doesn't force <b>Hoch</b>
to become first-person plural.<b> Hoch</b> is third-person
singular and the prefix has no choice but to agree with it.<br>
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