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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/2019 1:52 PM, Jeffrey Clark
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<div dir="ltr">On May 14, 2019, at 11:33, SuStel <<a
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/2019 11:21 AM, Jeffrey
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On May 14, 2019, at 10:05, mayqel qunen'oS <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><mihkoun@gmail.com></a> wrote:
However, the intended meaning was "I will present for the chancellor a
thinning training program".
Then, based on the "romulan hunter-killer probe" Ca'Non, the thought
entered my mind to write:
{QangvaD, qeqmeH 'ej langmeH mIw vImuch}
I will present for the chancellor a process in order to train and in
order to thin
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">In this construction, how does one differentiate between something with two purposes versus a purpose that is serving another one? Or does one just rely on context?
Because it could be a process for training that also will make him thin (but the training is it’s own purpose and lacks a direct causal link to the thinning), or it could be a process that trains him with the explicit purpose that the training makes him thin.</pre>
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<p>The <b>'ej</b> gives the game away. It has to connect two
verbal clauses of the same type, which means they can't be
modifying each other. The only possible conjunction here is
between the <b>qeqmeH</b> and the <b>langmeH,</b> so
there's no chance that <b>qeqmeH</b> is modifying <b>langmeH.</b></p>
<p>I wouldn't want to construct a sentence where one purpose
clause modifies another purpose clause. Start nesting
clauses too deep and they become hard to understand.</p>
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<div>What you say follows my intuition, but the example provided
seems to counter this. </div>
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<div>The sentence above {qeqmeH ‘ej langmeH} implies that the
process is to train and to thin the chancellor as dual purposes
(equality of purpose) — however my understanding is that the
intent is that the training is causal to the thinning. A causal
relationship seems like it should be {langmeH qeqmeH mIw} — “for
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<p>A Romulan hunter-killer probe is a <b>romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej
HoHbogh nejwI',</b> but the killing is dependent on the finding,
yet they are given equal billing in the sentence. It's a probe
that finds and a probe that kills, but neither of these functions
is independent of the other.</p>
<p>A dieting program is a procedure for training and a procedure for
being thin. Neither function is independent of the other.<br>
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