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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2019 2:28 PM, Will Martin wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:84BAED87-51A3-4101-85A8-214E7DF7E7CF@mac.com">Second,
they didn’t carry out the mission on the Moon. The purpose of the
mission was to land on the Moon, so the “on the Moon” location
applies only to the purpose of the mission, not the carrying out
of the mission. They carried out the mission from the launch from
the surface of the Earth, to landing in the ocean and everywhere
along the long, loopy path in between. The mission was not
complete until the astronauts were safe at home and the moon rocks
and photographic film were delivered to the appropriate entities
on Earth.</blockquote>
<p>That's not what this sentence says. It's talking about a <b>SaqmeH
Qu'</b><i> landing mission,</i> not the entire mission of going,
landing, exploring, and returning.<br>
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cite="mid:84BAED87-51A3-4101-85A8-214E7DF7E7CF@mac.com">
<div class="">Thirdly, {maS SaqmeH Qu’} is ungrammatical because
you can’t put a verb in the middle of a noun-noun possessive
construction.</div>
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<p>Says who? <b>SaqmeH Qu'</b> is a noun phrase, and noun phrases
can count as the "noun" parts of a noun-noun construction. Are you
saying that if I have a <b>pe'meH taj</b><i> cutting knife, </i>I
can't talk about the <b>jonwI' pe'meH taj</b><i> engineer's
cutting knife</i>?<br>
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cite="mid:84BAED87-51A3-4101-85A8-214E7DF7E7CF@mac.com">
<div class="">I have no problem with {maSDaq SaqmeH Qu’} meaning
“The mission which has the purpose of [something] landing on the
moon. It is a little ambiguous because without a stated subject
for {Saq}, you could interpret it as “In order that the mission
lands on the Moon…”, but then we’d have to find something later
to apply this purpose to, and there aren’t any good candidates.
Besides, how does a mission land on the Moon?</div>
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<p>We have lots of these "infinitive" purpose clauses. <b>pe'meH
taj</b><i> cutting knife, </i><b>ghojmeH taj</b><i> boy's knife
(learning knife),</i> <b>qIpmeH Qatlh'a'</b><i> difficult to
hit? </i><b>QongmeH qItI'nga Duj</b><i> K'Tinga-class sleeper
ship, </i><b>qa'meH vIttlhegh</b><i> replacement proverb.</i>
There is no trouble interpreting <b>SaqmeH Qu'</b> as <i>landing
mission</i> and <b>maSDaq SaqmeH Qu'</b> as <i>moon-landing
mission.</i><br>
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