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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 1, 2019, at 3:18 PM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" class="">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2019 3:13 PM, Will Martin wrote:<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:96561D96-3895-4A11-9AE7-5E89C352E60A@mac.com" class="">{nay’
DIlmeH Huch} is not a noun-noun construction. It’s not a
“genitive” (termed “possessive” in TKD). It is money
for-the-purpose-of-buying-a-dish-of-food. It’s money with a
mission.
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<div class="">Note that this is an uncommon construction, probably
not justified by canon, because the general rule is that while a
verb with {-meH} can describe the purpose of a noun or it can
describe the purpose of a verb, there is a distinctive
difference in form depending on whether it describes a noun or a
verb.</div>
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<div class="">When it describes a noun, the verb with {-meH} will,
in all examples I’ve seen, NOT HAVE A SUBJECT OR OBJECT. </div>
</blockquote><p class="">Untrue.</p><p class=""><b class="">qaSuchmeH 'eb</b><i class=""> opportunity for me to visit you.<br class="">
</i><a href="http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-01-18b-news.txt" class="">http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-01-18b-news.txt</a></p>
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