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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">A similar example with another Type 5 suffix is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> tlhIngan juHqo'Daq tlhIng yoSDaq 'oH toQDuj chenmoHlu'meH Daq wa'DIch'e'
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1st Construction Site: The Kling District, Klingon Home World. (KBoP)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Note it’s not the same thing as it’s not apposition but specificity or precision – is there a better grammatical/linguistic term? -- like a mailing address:
Apartment 4B, 1234 Blackstone Street, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A. (In some countries the order of elements on an envelope is reversed.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Another example of repeating the suffix (also not apposition) is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu', chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI'
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The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors. (S9)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> (“while warriors stand on the left [side] and on the right [side], the<br>
celebrant must walk [in the area] between them”)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yet another example is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> tIngvo' 'evDaq chanDaq<br>
all around, all over (the place) (st.k 11/21/1999)<br>
(“from area-southwestward to area-northwestward to area eastward)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Again this is not apposition, but sequence: from A to B to C.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Can anyone think of other examples where the same suffix appears on both elements of an appositional phrase?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--<br>
Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ca'Non Master of the Klingons</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> SuStel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 4/4/2019 9:08 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Skybox 1 has (among other sentences) the following phrase:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>{juHqo' Qo'noSvo' loghDaq lengtaHvIS tlhInganpu'} with the translation<span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>"..expansion of the klingon people from their homeworld of kronos into<span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>space.."<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Shouldn't the "from their homeworld of kronos" be given as {Qo'noS<span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>juHqo'vo'} instead of {juHqo' Qo'noSvo'} ?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p>Not really. <b>juHqo' Qo'noSvo'</b> is just an example of apposition. <i>From Kronos, the homeworld.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What's interesting about this to me is that a <b>-vo'</b> isn't added to both words. If I were writing this sentence I would have said
<b>juHqo'vo' Qo'noSvo'.</b> You can imagine a comma between the two words. Lacking a
<b>-vo'</b> on <b>juHqo',</b> and the way type 5 suffixes migrate to the ends of verbs, suggest to me that type 5 noun suffixes act more like clitics than simple noun inflections.<o:p></o:p></p>
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