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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/27/2019 9:26 AM, Alan Anderson
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:5A5B40B9-1B80-43F7-83FA-0D38FD51E7AD@alcaco.net">On Mar
26, 2019, at 11:03 PM, SuStel <<a
href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" moz-do-not-send="true">sustel@trimboli.name</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Who said it's ungrammatical?</div>
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<div>It looks like you did.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255,
255, 0);">On Mar 24, 2019, at 4:59 PM, SuStel <<a
href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" moz-do-not-send="true">sustel@trimboli.name</a>>
wrote:</span></div>
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<p><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">It's
not ungrammatical to elide an <b>'oH</b> which refers
to <b>ngoDvam.</b> However, you never established the
antecedent in the first place.</span></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">What
you're really doing is <b>bIvoqbe' 'ej muSuj 'e'.</b> This
is, of course, not allowed.</span></font></p>
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You also posted something even more full of multiple negatives
that I think parses out to “you can say it but it’s illegal.”
Are you making some sort of a distinction between
“ungrammatical” and “against the rules”?</div>
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<p>I said "it's not ungrammatical" to elide a pronoun. Then I said
"What you're really doing is" making <b>'e'</b> a subject, and
THAT is not allowed. I did not say <b>bIvoqbe' 'ej muSuj</b> is
ungrammatical, only that it has to assume an elided noun like <b>ngoDvam</b>
to be grammatical.</p>
<p>Good grief! mayqel asked if there was something wrong about <b>bIvoqbe'
'ej muSuj,</b> because he felt like there was. I was pointing
out that his bad feeling probably came from mentally thinking of
this as <b>bIvoqbe' 'ej muSuj 'e',</b> which is a sentence that
IS ungrammatical, and I said so. I also pointed out that mayqel's
actual sentence itself is not actually ungrammatical, because it
can be interpreted as something like <b>bIvoqbe' 'ej muSuj
nogDvam.</b> I believed this was NOT what mayqel had been
thinking, because of his bad feeling about the sentence. I also
opined that this sentence was probably not the best way to say
this, because there was an elided pronoun without an antecedent,
and offered alternatives. This was a stylistic opinion on my part.</p>
<p>I didn't tell anyone his sentence was ungrammatical, against the
rules, or illegal. And if you all insist on continuing to find a
way to read what I said that way, just take the above paragraph as
a revised statement.<br>
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