<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:55 AM De'vID <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span>Yes, that would be how I read that sentence. </div></div><div><br></div><div>That sense of {jatlhHa'} (undo speaking), that is, "taking back one's words", reminds me of {nobHa'}, which bothered me when I first encountered it. In the {nobHa'} example, {Huch nobHa'bogh verenganpu''e' yIvoqQo'}, the giver isn't the one undoing the giving; the recipient is. Before that example, I might've used {tlhapHa'} in that sentence instead of {nobHa'}, or at least been undecided between them.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">My personal explanation is that the recipient has to initiate the un-giving because they're the one in possession of the item now, and that un-giving, like giving, is supposed to be voluntary. Though it's probably just an idiomatic interpretation; the <b>-Ha'</b> suffix seems to create a lot of those. I don't think <b>jatlhHa'</b> in the sense of "take back saying something" would work the same way.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">On another note, using both meanings of <b>-Ha'</b> on the same verb provides some fun opportunities for wordplay:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><b>bIjatlhHa'pu' 'ej DajatlhHa'laHbe'. </b><i>You have said the wrong thing and you can't take it back.</i></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">(This sentence is probably not very beginner-friendly.)<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div></div></div></div>