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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/18/2019 2:09 PM, mayqel qunen'oS
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAP7F2cKQC2Xpov_39Ybza6cq2O+NbKH98E4A1UKw6vnXC6vtBg@mail.gmail.com">
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          style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">SuStel:</span></div>
      <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">> Show me
        a text you want to translate that you think runs </span>
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          style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">> into an
          irreconcilable </span><b
          style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">-lu'/laH</b><span
          style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> clash.</span></div>
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          style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">I'm afraid you
          misunderstood me.</span></div>
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            style="font-size:12.8px">The problem (or at least my
            problem..), isn't that I come across the need to say
            "someone who is unable", and can't find the way to say it,
            without breaking the -lu'/-laH rule.</span></font></div>
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            style="font-size:12.8px">The problem is, that if I start the
            passage writing e.g. {vumlu'taHvIS, 'ej Doy'qu'lu'taHvIS,
            qeqnISlu'chugh..}, and suddenly I need to say "but he is
            unable to train", I would then need to switch off the -lu',
            to some other solution.</span></font></div>
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            style="font-size:12.8px">Perhaps I would say {qeqlaHbe'},
            {qeqlaHbe' vay'}, {qeqlaHbe' nuv}, {qeqlaHbe' vumqu'wI'},
            etc.</span></font></div>
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            style="font-size:12.8px">But doing so, I would have to
            switch from talking about someone "unspecified", to someone
            "specified".</span></font></div>
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            style="font-size:12.8px">Now, don't ask me what the actual
            difference is, between the "someone" described by the -lu',
            and the "someone" described by the vay'. In greek we don't
            have something similar, so I can't *feel* the difference
            between the two.</span></font></div>
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            style="font-size:12.8px">But I think sometime in the past,
            it had been said in a discussion on the -lu'</span></font><span
          style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:sans-serif">, that once
          someone starts using in a long passage the -lu', then it would
          be preferable if he didn't use -lu' and -vay' (or some other
          solution) interchangeably.</span></div>
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    <p>I'd just use <b>vay'</b> with the <b>-laH </b>and forget about
      it.</p>
    <p>Actually I'd probably use <b>vay'</b> for the whole thing,
      provided I didn't need to repeat it. <b>vumtaHvIS vay' 'ej
        Doy'qu'taHvIS, qeqnISchugh 'ach qaqlaHbe'chugh...</b></p>
    <p>Again, I'd need to see this in its larger context. You'll
      generally have to reword something that will end up with a <b>-laH</b>
      and <b>-lu'</b> together anyway.<br>
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