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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/18/2019 12:27 PM, Will Martin
wrote:<br>
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<div class="">Before Okrand revealed the prefix trick to us,
{‘etlhlIj HInob} would have, indeed, been ungrammatical Klingon,
encoded English. It would have not made sense in the Klingon
language. </div>
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<div class="">But Okrand DID reveal the prefix trick to us, and
because of that {‘etlhlIj HInob} is perfectly grammatical in
Klingon.</div>
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<div class="">If he ever reveals to us how indirect quotation
works in Klingon, the same will be true of your double-question,
assuming that your version of how the grammar works matches
whatever he comes up with. Before we knew how to use direct
quotations, we had no grammar for it, and likely had we guessed,
we would not have come up with what Okrand revealed to us, so
earlier guesses would almost certainly be wrong. And yes, we
spent years working with the language before we had any hint as
to the grammar of how to make direct quotations.</div>
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<p>We know perfectly well how "direct quotations" and "indirect
quotations" work in Klingon: everything is a report of the actual
speech, or else doesn't use a verb of speech.</p>
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<p><b>qaja'pu' HIqaghQo'</b> <i>I told you not to interrupt me. </i>(TKD)<br>
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<p>Literally it's <i>I told you, "Don't interrupt me!"</i> but it's
also used in situations where in English one wouldn't quote
someone else's exact words. If it's not a verb of speech, then
it's something like this: <b>qaqaghbe'pu' 'e' Datlhob</b><i> You
requested that I not interrupt you.</i> Here, I'm not reporting
your speech.</p>
<p>"Direct quotations" are explained in TKD; we did not spend years
before he had a hint of how to use them.<br>
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