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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/11/2019 4:36 PM, Will Martin
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<div class="">I think the real issue here is that most verbs take
some kind of object, and on a case-by-case basis, in order to
fully understand each verb, you have to understand what kind of
object it takes. While I like the idea of the term “locative
verb”, I think that it might tempt people to oversimplify the
relationship between verbs and objects by classifying one type
of verb that uses a location for an object as different from all
other verbs that use something other than a location as an
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<p>I'm not going to pretend that I have carefully read your entire
email. Instead, I'll respond to this first bit. I'm not declaring
a new world order in which all worship the locative/non-locative
divide. I'm just saying that <i>locative verb</i> is more
accurate than <i>verb of motion.</i></p>
<p>We started saying <i>verb of motion</i> when your interview with
Okrand was published and we were dazzled by the implications. The
thing is, we didn't notice that this concept had been with us all
along, in that passage of TKD that I quoted before. The interview
focused on verbs that had to do with motion, and indeed these will
probably be the majority of such verbs, and we started calling
them <i>verbs of motion.</i> Okrand didn't use the phrase, we
did. Okrand didn't link this type of verb to motion, we did.</p>
<p>Then we start confusing ourselves, trying to figure out which
verbs involve motion, when what's really going on is that we need
to look for verbs that involve <i>location.</i> That's what TKD
tells us. It doesn't use the term <i>locative verb</i> any more
than Okrand used the term <i>verb of motion,</i> but it's a
nicely descriptive term.</p>
<p>That's all. You're speaking in absolutes; I'm just acknowledging
a useful term.<br>
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<div class="">So, I think “locative verb” is a good idea to open
one’s mind to the sometimes complex and arbitrary relationship
between a verb and its objects, but I’m not sure it classifies
enough verbs into one group to fully function as a useful
classifier. I also think that it might group together verbs that
don’t really work exactly the same way, and we might become
tempted to think that they do when they don’t.</div>
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<p>That's exactly what I think <i>verb of motion</i> does.<br>
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