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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/29/2018 10:21 AM, mayqel qunenoS
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<div dir="auto">In order to say that someone is a cardassian, we
use the suffix {-ngan}, which means inhabitant:
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<div dir="auto">{qarDaS} + {-ngan} = qarDaSngan = inhabitant of
cardassia.</div>
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<div dir="auto">The problem though is, that a cardassian, i.e.
someone of the cardassian race, isn't just an "inhabitant" of
cardassia. He *is* in a way a *part* of his homeworld, i.e. he
feels his homeworld being a part of himself.</div>
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<div dir="auto">If he moved to kronos, and stayed there forever,
perhaps he would become an inhabitant of kronos, but he
wouldn't identify himself as a klingon.</div>
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<div dir="auto">And of course, he wouldn't fight (let alone die)
for kronos, something which he would certainly do for
cardassia.</div>
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<div dir="auto">So, I can't understand, how in order to say "he
is cardassian", it is sufficient to say {qarDaSngan ghaH} i.e.
"he's an inhabitant of cardassia".</div>
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<div dir="auto">Why not say instead {qarDaS loD ghaH} i.e. "he
is a man of cardassia" ? Or maybe even {qarDaS Segh loD ghaH}
i.e. "he is a man of the cardassian race" ? Or {qarDaS mut loD
ghaH} i.e. "he is a man of the cardassian species" ?</div>
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<div dir="auto">I just think that being from somewhere, means
way more than just that you inhabit this place.<br>
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<p>This comes up all the time, and the basic response to it is "Deal
with it."</p>
<p>Klingon uses lexicalized <b>-ngan</b> words to refer to species
names, whether they're actually an inhabitant of the named planet.
A human is a <b>tera'ngan </b>even if they've never set foot on
Earth in their lives.</p>
<p>One might make sense of this by always considering all
non-lexicalized <b>ngan</b> phrases two words. If I'm a Klingon
living in the First City on Kronos, I'm a <b>tlhIngan</b> who is
a <b>veng wa'DIch ngan</b> and a <b>Qo'noS ngan</b> (not a <b>veng
wa'DIchngan</b> or a <b>Qo'noSngan</b>). This is not a
canonical thing to do.</p>
<p>(On the other hand, are we right to casually suffix <b>ngan</b>
to place-names, without including a space? Take the non-coining of
compound nouns as single words as a given before considering
this.)<br>
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