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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/29/2018 10:02 AM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 17:51 SuStel <<a
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<div class="m_3840615663182124120moz-cite-prefix">On
12/28/2018 10:59 PM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Two verbs to consider here are {tuQ}
and {tatlh}. {tuQmoH} and {tatlh'egh} are
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<p>How do we know that <b>tuQmoH</b> is lexicalized? </p>
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<div dir="auto">I guess we don't know for certain, and it's
confusing because it's glossed in TKD as "put on (clothes)", and
in HolQeD 2.4, {tuQmoHHa'} (not {tuQHa'moH}) is used with the
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<p>I think the gloss <i>put on (clothes)</i> is misleading as to
the grammar of <b>tuQmoH. </b>I believe <b>tuQ</b> works just
like any other verb. It's just that the English terminology
doesn't use the same grammar as the Klingon that makes it
confusing.<br>
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<p><b>tuQ</b> <i>wear (clothes)<br>
</i><b>tuQmoH</b><i> put on (clothes)<br>
</i><b>tuQHa'moH</b><i> undress, take off (clothes)<br>
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<p><b>HIp vItuQ</b> <i>I wear the uniform<br>
</i><b>puq vItuQmoH</b><i> I dress the child; I cause the child to
wear (something unspecified)<br>
</i><b>HIp vItuQmoH</b> <i>I dress someone unspecified in the
uniform; I put the uniform on (someone unspecified)<br>
</i><b>puqvaD HIp vItuQmoH</b><i> I dress the child in the
uniform; I cause the child to wear the uniform</i></p>
<p><b>jItuQHa'moH</b> <i>I undress someone unspecified; I cause
someone unspecified to un-wear.<br>
</i><b>puq vItuQHa'moH</b> <i>I undress the child; I cause the
child to un-wear (something unspecified)<br>
</i><b>HIp vItuQHa'moH</b><i> I take the uniform off (of someone
unspecified); I cause someone unspecified to un-wear the uniform<br>
</i><b>puqvaD HIp vItuQHa'moH</b><i> I remove the uniform from the
child; I cause the child to un-wear the uniform</i><br>
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