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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I found this in my notes from qep’a’ wa’maHDIch (2003):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(DloraH, 9/16/2003): Once in a while here we would have discussions about when exactly the point of completion occurs in relation to a timestamp or {-taHvIS}.
[E.g.] {wejHu' vIHoHta'}. Did I kill him BEFORE three days ago? (possibly) Could I have done the killing ON that day (three days ago)? Yes. Some people (including myself), thought that the {-ta'} had to be true at any point in time of that day. At one
second after midnight, {-ta'} would mean that the killing took place before three days ago. But without specifying that precise time, you have until 23:59 on that day for the event to become {-ta'}.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Some examples of {-pu’} used with a time stamp:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH loS bong QongmeH qItI'nga' Duj tI'ang ghompu' DIvI' 'ejDo' 'entepray'
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">A sleeper ship of this [K'Tinga] class, the T'Ong, was encountered in the 24th century by the USS Enterprise. S15<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">HovpoH Hut vagh cha' wa' vI' jav Dujvam 'aghlu'pu' 'ach Qaw'lu'pu'
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[This ship was demonstrated on Stardate 9521.6 but it was destroyed. (untranslated)] S33<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">DaH nuq ta'pu' Day joH
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">What has Lady Di done now? RTb<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">DaHjaj romuluSngan vIHoHpu'
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Today I killed a Romulan. (st.k 6/97)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">… and one with {-ta’} :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">wejHu' qoSlIj Dalopta', qar'a'?
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(MO's FaceBook text to Andre, 2/11/2014)<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">--<br>
Voragh<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">___________________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> nIqolay Q<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 21, 2018 9:59 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:15 AM mayqel qunenoS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">Suppose I write: {loSmaH wa' ben jIboghpu'} for "I am 41 years old".<br>
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Literally though, the klingon goes "41 years ago I have been born"<br>
i.e. 41 years ago my "being born" has been completed.<br>
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Lets forget this for the moment..<br>
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If I write {wa'Hu' pItSa' vISoppu'}, this means that "one day ago my<br>
eating the pizza has been completed". But I could have eaten this<br>
pizza many days ago, and yesterday is just another day during which my<br>
eating of the pizza continues to be completed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I remember someone asked Okrand about something similar to this, and he replied that using {-pu'} with a time-stamp adverbial implies that the completion occured at
the time of the time stamp. Sadly, I am having trouble finding the exact canon for this at the moment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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