<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Nov 17, 2018, at 01:29, De'vID <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 06:13, Daniel Dadap <<a href="mailto:daniel@dadap.net">daniel@dadap.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">In Star Trek V, there’s a scene where tlha'a HoD says “'entepray''a'?” and it’s captioned in English as “Enterprise?” Surely, he wasn’t adding the type nine verb suffix “-'a'” to a noun, so what was he doing?<br>
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* Using the type one noun suffix “-'a'” to mean something like “The great Enterprise?”<br>
* Referring to the “Enterprise-A” with registry number NCC-1701-A<br>
* Momentarily forgetting proper grammar for a moment because he was so excited<br>
* Using a dialect or slang where forming questions this way is allowed<br>
* Adding the verb suffix “-'a'” to a noun, after all<br>
* Some combination of some of the above possibilities<br>
* Something else<br></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>I think the description of the {qaghwI'} in TKD is referring to this:</div><div><div><The apostrophe indicates a sound which is frequently uttered, but not written, in English. It is a glottal stop, the slight catch in the throat between the two syllables of "uh-oh" or "unh-unh", meaning "no". When Klingon {'} comes at the end of a word, the vowel preceding the {'} is often repeated in a very soft whisper, as if an echo. Thus, Klingon {je'} "feed" almost sounds like {je'e}, where the articulation of the first {e} is abruptly cut off by the {'}, and the second {e} is a barely audible whisper.></div></div><div><br></div><div>Klaa is making an exclamation: "The Enterprise?!" {'entepray'a}</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I might have been willing to believe that if it weren’t quite so enunciated. It really does sound like 'entepray''a'. Klaa’s pitch also rises slightly with the -'a', a prosody consistent with the use of the interrogative marker, whereas if that vowel were merely an artifact of the qaghwI' I would expect the pitch to remain flat, in addition to becoming quieter (which it also doesn’t do).</div><div><br></div><div>I checked the canon archive on <a href="http://klingonska.org">klingonska.org</a> and found this:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?file=1989-06-09-st5.txt&q=%27entepray%27%27a%27">http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?file=1989-06-09-st5.txt&q=%27entepray%27%27a%27</a></div><div><br></div><div style="text-indent: 0px;"><span style="text-indent: 24px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">That transcript records the utterance as “'entepray''a'?”:</span></div><div><br></div><div><div style="text-indent: 0px;"><span style="text-indent: 24px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">KLAA </span></div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span style="text-indent: 24px;"><div style="text-indent: 0px;"> {'entepray''a'?} </div></span><span style="text-indent: 24px;"><div style="text-indent: 0px;"> (Enterprise?)</div></span></span></div><div><br></div><div>It says “<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span style="text-indent: 24px;">The Klingon material added is both from the "Notes from ~Star Trek V: The Final Frontier~" article in {HolQeD} 8:4, and David Yonge-Mallo's transcript of ST5.”</span></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span style="text-indent: 24px;"><br></span></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span style="text-indent: 24px;">I don’t have the text of that HolQeD handy, but I trust it’s accurate, and I don’t know who this “David” fellow is (perhaps you know him?), but I trust he knows what he’s talking about.</span></span></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>And by the way, his parents were so excited when he was born that this echo is even found in his name: {tlha'a}!</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">De'vID</div></div></div>
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