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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/20/2018 12:46 PM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAP7F2cL9vuUxAsSc_ZGBNLqvqGDDcNr5BEQqU3747BN+s2V2JQ@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="auto">jIH:</div>
<div dir="auto">> <span
style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Qo'noSDaq
nujaHmoH chaH</span></div>
<div dir="auto">> <span
style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">maHvaD
Qo'noS lujaHmoH</span></div>
SuStel:
<div dir="auto">> <span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Yes. You could
also say the latter as </span><b
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Qo'noS
nujaHmoH</b><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> via the
prefix trick.</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">hmm.. This confuses me. I thought
that by saying {Qo'noS nujaHmoH}, the meaning would be that
"the going takes place on Kronos', instead of "we are being
caused to go to Kronos".</span></font></div>
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<p>The direct object of the word <b>jaH</b> is inherently locative.
Any direct object you give to it will be interpreted in a locative
sense. The direct object of <b>jaH</b> is the destination the
subject is going to.<br>
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<p><b>Qo'noS lujaH</b> <i>They go to Kronos.</i></p>
<p>Any other locatives that may be added in front of <b>jaH</b> do
not necessarily imply the destination of the going, since
locatives in Klingon can mean <i>on, in, at, </i>or even <i>by.</i>
It's not impossible to interpret a non-object locative in front of
<b>jaH</b> as the destination, but it generally won't be
interpreted that way, since that's what the object is for.</p>
<p><b>DujDaq jaH chaH</b><i> They go on the ship.<br>
</i><b>DujDaq Qo'noS lujaH</b><i> They go to Kronos on the ship.</i></p>
<p>It's all about whether the locative is the direct object or not.
If it is, it's the destination. If it isn't, it's not the
destination.<br>
<i></i></p>
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