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<p class="MsoNormal">At qepHom 2015 qurgh asked Okrand about this:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(qurgh, 11/10/2015): I had a conversation with Marc about <b>
'oH</b> and <b>ghaH</b> and animals when I was at the <b>qepHom</b>. He said that if you (the speaker) believe you can communicate with a creature, then it's a
<b>ghaH</b>, if you don't believe you can communicate with a creature, then it's <b>
'oH</b>. It's down the personal beliefs of the speaker, not a set formula.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 04:52, Alan Anderson <<a href="mailto:qunchuy@alcaco.net">qunchuy@alcaco.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:49 PM Daniel Dadap <<a href="mailto:daniel@dadap.net" target="_blank">daniel@dadap.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">What do you all think about {'oH} versus {ghaH}? Has Maltz ever said anything to point us more strongly towards one interpretation or the other, with regards to whether {ghaH} might apply to beings incapable
of language?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">On the old MSN expert forum, Marc Okrand said:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt">the question {yIH nuq?} "What is a tribble?" is exactly parallel to the statement {yIH 'oH} "It is a tribble" <o:p></o:p></p>
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A tribble is an animate being. It gets the pronouns {'oH} and {nuq}, not {ghaH} and {'Iv}.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In HolQeD 10:4, Okrand discusses birds that talk. He makes a point of saying that the usual suffix for birds is {-mey}, but that some Klingons use {-pu'} for birds which mimick speech. He does not mention whether they take {'oH} or {ghaH},
which could be interpreted either way. That is, it might be that the distinction between {'oH} and {ghaH} is so obviously the same as between {-mey} and {-pu'} as to be not worth mentioning (and hence those Klingons who use {-pu'} would use {ghaH}, and those
who use {-mey} would use {'oH}). Or it might be that all animals always take {'oH} (or always take {ghaH}), and this doesn't change regardless of whether they talk. But in the latter case, the fact that a {yIH} is referred to using {'oH} implies that all animals
are {'oH}. So in either interpretation, {'oH} is used for animals which don't talk. What's left open is whether those Klingons who use {-pu'} for talking birds would also use {ghaH}/{chaH} for them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">De'vID<o:p></o:p></p>
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