<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Describing the non-nouns, non-verbs as {chuvmey} feels a bit derogatory, like they're not important words. {latlh} is at least a little more neutral. Perhaps Klingon grammarians have decided to update their terminology after thirty years of non-Klingon interest in the language.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:43 AM, SuStel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On Jun 25, 2018, at 08:21, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>>
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<div class="m_9211780735606651351moz-cite-prefix">On 6/25/2018 8:03 AM, Lieven L.
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23.06.2018 um 19:45 schrieb SuStel: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">This is interesting. Marc Okrand
gave a grammar lecture at Mythmoot V yesterday (<a class="m_9211780735606651351moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.twitch.tv/videos/276418848" target="_blank">https://www.twitch.tv/videos/<wbr>276418848</a>),
and when he says there are three parts of speech (around
19 minutes in), he names them *DIp*/nouns,/*wot*/verbs,/
and *latlh*/everything else./ <br>
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I would guess that he just forgot about what they were
called in TKD and just from his mind translated "others"
literally as {latlh}. <br>
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And staying "in the game": naming the {chuvmey} as {latlh}
still makes sense. {chuvmey} perhabs is not really a
grammatical term, but just a way to refer to anything that's
not a verb or a noun (or suffix, of course). <br>
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<p>It would have to be the other way round: "By far the bulk
of Klingon words are nouns and verbs. There are a few others
which, probably as an expedient, Klingon grammarians lump
together in a group called <b>chuvmey</b> <i>leftovers.</i>"</p>
<p>So Marc may be calling them <b>latlh</b> when giving a
talk at Mythmoot, but <b>chuvmey</b> certainly is a
grammatical term.<br>
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<div>Maybe Morskan or Krotmag or some other dialect yet to be
described doesn’t have the word “chuv”, so people speaking those
dialects call the chuvmey “latlh”.</div>
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</span><p>Maybe, but Marc was teaching the standard dialect. Besides, if it
had been Morskan, it would have been called <b>lats.</b><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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