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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/12/2018 8:37 AM, Daniel Dadap
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<pre wrap="">1) IIUC the generally expected way to express that noun Y is in/on/at noun X is {(X)Daq 'oHtaH (Y)'e'}. How acceptable or unacceptable is it to abbreviate this to {(X)Daq (Y)}?</pre>
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<p>I would accept it as clipped Klingon, but not as formally
grammatical Klingon.</p>
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<pre wrap="">2) Would {(X) (Y) law' Hoch latlhmey (Y) puS} mean that X is more Y than all other Xes, or that X is more Y than all other things, not limited to other Xes? I’m trying to express the former meaning without having to do {(X) (Y) law' Hoch (X)mey (Y) puS} every time, partly because being able to use {latlh} in every verse strengthens the formula, and partly because it’s already slightly awkward to accommodate different syllable counts for the different X items that appear in the verses.</pre>
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<p><i>More than all others</i> is just another way to say <i>most,</i>
and that's the superlative construction.</p>
<p><b>HoD Dun law' Hoch Dun puS.<br>
</b><i>The captain is the greatest.</i></p>
<p>If you want to put the superlative in context, you can model a
line from <i>Star Trek V</i> and get:</p>
<p><b>SuvwI''e' HoD Dun law' Hoch Dun puS.<br>
</b><i>The captain is the greatest warrior.<br>
As for warriors, the captain is the greatest.</i></p>
<p>Or you can just rely on context to make the superlative clear:</p>
<p><b>Dun Hoch SuvwI'pu' 'ach le'bej HoDma'. Devchu'. baHDI' not
baHHa'. tlheDnISchugh reH pe'vIl chegh. HoDma' Dun law' Hoch Dun
puS.</b><br>
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<p>Technically speaking, I don't see anything wrong with saying <b>HoD
Dun law' Hoch latlh SuvwI'pu' Dun puS</b><i> The captain is
greater than all other warriors,</i> but we're given rules for
the superative, and the alternative is more complicated to say, so
why not use what Okrand gave us?<br>
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