<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div><br></div><div><br>On Jun 11, 2018, at 18:43, RE Andeen <<a href="mailto:eric.andeen@outlook.com">eric.andeen@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">{bIje'be''eghchugh} sounds really clunky to my ear, though that's just my opinon. There is plenty of canon support (which I'm too lazy to look up) for {-be'} modifying not just the preceding suffix but the whole unit
of meaning, so {bIje''eghbe'chugh} would most naturally be understood as "If you don't feed yourself". I keep trying to formulate an alternative meaning, where {-be'} negates only the {-'egh}, but I can't find a way to make any sense of it.</p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tlhIngan Hol] bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Oh, I left out a crucial {be'} in those three phrases. I meant {bIje''eghbe'chugh vaj bIHegh}. I guess {bIje'be''eghchugh} would be more grammatically appropriate, but it sounds less like the other phrases.<br>
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> On Jun 11, 2018, at 17:40, Daniel Dadap <<a href="mailto:daniel@dadap.net">daniel@dadap.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> We all know that {bIjeghchugh vaj bIHegh} is something you might hear in battle, and {bIje'chugh vaj bIHegh} is something you might hear when entering a store on Qo'noS, but what about {bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh}? It seems like a reasonable thing a restaurant
proprietor might tell you, and is also more self-evidently true than the other two.<br>
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> I tried doing a web search for {bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh}, and wasn’t able to find any existing uses of this phrase. However, Klingon text searches in Terran database systems can be a bit hit or miss. Surely others must have invented this same pun already,
I would think…<br>
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> At the very least, it makes for an amusing demonstration of how important the {qaghwI'} is.<br>
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