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On Apr 26, 2018, at 16:03, SuStel <<a
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/2018 4:44 PM, Daniel
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<pre wrap="">jatlhchuqtaHvIs jupwI' jIH je, jIqIDpu', 'a tlhaQbe' qIDwIj 'e' noH jupwI'. “chay' tlhIngan Hol jatlhtaHvIS <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>facepalm<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> jatlhlu'” 'e' ghel ghaH. “qabwIj vIweq” vIjangpu', 'a jIloy neH.
jIghel: nuq jatlh tlhInganna', moghDI' ghaH?</pre>
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<p>jatlhlaw' <i>ghuy'cha'! </i>pagh <i>va!</i></p>
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<div>Thanks for answering the question and also for helping me
with the fiddly grammar bits. I hope my post was at least
somewhat intelligible. }}}:-)</div>
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<div>I suppose my actual question could have been more precisely
worded: “ghuy'cha'” and “va” both seem like reasonable things
that one might say in a moment of general frustration, whereas I
was looking for a more direct analog to “facepalm”, which I
interpret more as an expression of exasperation in immediate
response to something that somebody has just said or done.</div>
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<div>Do you think “qabwIj vIweq” would at least be understood to
mean something like “facepalm”? Are you aware of any other
expressions or idioms that might be suitable for a “facepalm”
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<p>Are you saying people actually say "facepalm" in such moments?
I'm pretty sure Klingons aren't up on the latest Internetese, and
don't have this expression.<br>
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<p><jatlhchuqtaHvIS jupwI' jIH je></p>
<p><b>jatlh</b> doesn't take the person spoken to as a direct
object, so you probably can't say <b>jatlhchuq.</b> One
usually says <b>ja'chuq,</b> which appears in the
dictionary. It's not entirely clear, though.</p>
<p><chay' tlhIngan Hol jatlhtaHvIS <i>facepalm</i>
jatlhlu'></p>
<p>Don't insert the subordinate clause between the main clause
and its question word. Also, keep your indefinite subject
consistent throughout. <b>tlhIngan Hol jatlhlu'taHvIS chay'
<i>facepalm</i> jatlhlu'?</b></p>
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<div>Cool, this is helpful. Would “tlhIngan Hol jatlhlu'taHvIS
chay' X jatlhlu'” be a reasonable way to ask how to say X in
Klingon? Is there a more concise/preferred way to do this?<br>
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Maybe <b>wejpuH</b><i> charming (used only ironically).</i><br>
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