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In lieu of a definitive answer, a possible workaround for this particular situation:<br>
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«loS mIwHommey'e' ngIq SIQlu'.»<br>
"As for the four subprocesses, they're endured one by one."<br>
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(Note that «ngIq» is grammatically singular, similar to «cha»; MO specified in the notes for the latest qepHom that «ngIq mIch wIHotlh.» is correct but *ngIq mIch DIHotlh.* is not.)<br>
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//loghaD<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 5, 2018 10:35:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> tlhingan-hol@kli.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tlhIngan Hol] ngIq and numbers</font>
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<div dir="auto">I guess I could omit the {loS} and still express the desired meaning.
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<div dir="auto">But the question remains; if {ngIq} expresses "a sequence of things one after the other", then why not specify with a number the quantity of these things ?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Putting aside the fact that it has never been used in canon with a number preceding it.. If someone read the {<span style="font-family:sans-serif">loS ngIq mIwHom luSIQlu'}, would he understand the intended meaning ?</span></div>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Or would there be any room for confusion/misinterpretation, as far as the intended meaning is concerned ?</span></div>
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<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">~ nI'ghma</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 5, 2018 23:07, "Steven Boozer" <<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I’m not sure. {ngIq} has been used in sentences with numbers, but not in the way you want (if I understand what you’re trying to say). E.g.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> ngIq tonSaw' lo' SaD law' San chenmoH qeylIS wej boghbogh nuvpu' San chenmoH
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> In one single move, Kahless decided the fate of thousands, and those to come. PB<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> ngIq raQ – 200 QaS, mon – 200 QaS loS raQmey je
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Outposts cost 200 each; capitals, 200 each plus 4 outposts. MKE<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br>
ngIq gholvaD vaghmaH QaS yInob <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Pay each player 50 forces. MKE<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br>
ngIq gholvo' wa'maH QaS yItlhap <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Collect 10 forces from every player. MKE<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Since {mIw} means “procedure, process; step, stage (in a process)” – sequential by nature – why not just say {loS mIw luSIQlu'}? Note there’s also a separate
verb {quq} meaning “happen simultaneously”:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br>
quqtaHvIS wanI'vam raQDaq pawta' qotar qempa'QeH je <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> At the same time Kotar and the *<b>Qempa'keh</b>* arrive at the camp. PB<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And don’t forget the adverbials {nIteb} "alone, acting alone, on one’s own, etc." vs. {nItebHa'} "linked, (acting) united, side-by-side, etc.”.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">--Voragh<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> mayqel qunenoS<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was wondering whether we could say:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">{<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">loS ngIq mIw luSIQlu'}</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">four individual processes someone endured<span style="color:#1f497d"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Meaning "four individual processes one after the other".</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What puzzles me is using a number in conjuction with {ngIq}.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Could this be done ? Is the above sentence correct ?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">~ nI'ghma</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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