<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline" class="gmail_default">On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Aurélie Demonchaux <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:demonchaux.aurelie@gmail.com" target="_blank">demonchaux.aurelie@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello all!</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Today I was wondering if you could combine interrogation words such as nuq and 'Iv with type 5 noun suffixes, in particular -vaD and -mo' </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The TKD says;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> For {'Iv} <who?> and {nuq} <what?> the question word fits into the sentence in the position that would be occupied by the answer.</font></blockquote><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">So, if the thing we want to ask is {what for; because of what; to whom; because of whom}, could we simply use {nuqvaD; nuqmo'; 'IvvaD; 'Ivmo'}?</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">For example:</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif">nuqvaD lI' De'vam?</font><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> = what is this information useful for?</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif">'IvvaD taj nobpu' qama' ?</font><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">= to whom did the prisoner give the knife?<br></font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif">nuqmo' jachtaH ghaH?</font><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> = because of what is he shouting?</font></div><div><font face="times new roman, serif">'Ivmo' tIwtaH ghaH?</font><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> = because of whom is he acting emotionally?</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">I know some of the above could be rephrased easily in a "safer" grammatical way but I'm really interested in whether these alternative constructs would be grammatical and acceptable.</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks in advance!</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I don't believe there are examples of {'Iv} or {nuq} being used with {-vaD} and {-mo'}. {nuqDaq} already provides a precedent for type 5 suffixes on question pronouns, though, and there's no rule explicitly preventing using other type 5s on {'Iv} and {nuq}. {nuqvaD} and {'Ivmo'} and so on all make clear sense semantically. You're probably fine to use them.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote" style="transition: transform 1s ease 0s;"><br>On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:10 PM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Aurelie, on August 7 2017, I had asked exactly the same.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The title of that thread was "'Iv with type 5 noun suffixes".</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="transition: transform 1s ease 0s;">Unfortunately,
because now I'm only able to use my phone, I can't find the link to
that thread, so if someone could post it, in order to help Aurelie, it
would be great.<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_quote" style="transition: transform 1s ease 0s;"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Here we go: <a href="http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2017-August/004848.html">http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2017-August/004848.html</a> (That's a link to voragh's reply with some relevant canon examples, with mayqel's original post quoted at the end.)<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div></div></div></div></div>