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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> mayqel qunenoS<br>
>> </span>{'e' -lu'} is not a permissible construction, unless the {-lu'} is on the verb {'aq}.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> SIS 'e' 'aqlu', javmaH vatlhvI' DIch</b> <br>
It is predicted it will rain, 60% certainty. (qep'a' 2017)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, the {<b>'e' -lu'</b>} pattern can indeed be used with verbs other than {<b>‘aq</b>}. E.g.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> Qang QanmeH yan 'ISletlh Damuv 'e' wIvlu'. <br>
</b>You are chosen to serve on the <i>Yan-Isleth</i> and protect the chancellor. MKE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We’ve also seen the pattern {<b>-lu' 'e' -lu'</b>} used:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> yay chavlu' 'e' bajnISlu'</b> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b> </b>Victory must be earned. TKW<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b> yInlu'taH 'e' bajnISlu'</b>
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<b> </b>Survival must be earned. TKW<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b> DIvI' rojmab qep ghanglu' 'e' nIDlu', 'ach taH qep.
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</b>Despite efforts to halt them, peace talks with Federation continue. MKE<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And we’ve even seen the pattern {<b>-lu' net</b>}:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b> vImuHlu' net wuqHa'!<br>
</b> My death sentence was commuted! (ENT "Affliction")<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--<br>
Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> mayqel qunenoS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">{<b>'e' -lu'</b>} is not a permissible construction, unless the {-<b>lu'</b>} is on the verb {<b>'aq</b>}.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Always, as soon as you find yourself wanting to say {yadda yadda
<b>'e'</b> *whatever*<b>lu'</b>} you should instead write {yadda yadda <b>net</b> whatever}<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">~ nI'ghma<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 30, 2017 9:12 PM, "Aurélie Demonchaux" <<a href="mailto:demonchaux.aurelie@gmail.com">demonchaux.aurelie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Today I am trying to grasp the difference between {net + verb} and {'e' + verb-lu'}<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The way I understand it is, for example with "Sov"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">net Sov = it is common knowledge that <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">'e' Sovlu' = someone (indefinite) knows that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thus:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">qama'pu' DIHoHbe' net Sov = It is common knowledge that we don't kill prisoners<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">qama'pu' DIHoHbe' 'e' Sovlu' = It is known / someone knows that we don't kill prisoners<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Similarly with chaw' : <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">qama'pu' DIHoH net chaw'be' = we are not allowed to kill prisoners<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">qama'pu' DIHoH 'e' chaw'lu'be' = someone does not allow us to kill prisoners<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Am I getting it right ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks in advance!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Aurélie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">ghItlhjaj<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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