<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Write your questions down. </div><div><br></div><div>Attend the qepHom'a' (or other event where MO will be present). </div><div><br></div><div>Present your questions to him directly. </div><div><br></div><div>Do not expect instant answers. </div><div><br></div><div>~naHQun</div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">~Michael Roney, Jr. <div>Sent from my Palm Prē </div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 10/29/17 05:32 (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org </div><div>Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] At the qepHom ask about the vonlu' </div><div><br></div></div><div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">nIqolay Q</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> nor am I the one who has to directly ask Okrand for his time</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> and effort, so I'm less inclined to demand that others do </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> those things on my behalf</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">I'm not demanding. I'm suggesting.</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">This is the official mailing list of the klingon language institute. It is not some insignificant group of five individuals.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">It is expected that on this list, grammar questions which can't be answered through existing canon will appear.</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">And it is expected, that these questions (or at least some of them), will be forwarded by someone to the one who can answer them.</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">The alternative is that noone takes "the time and effort", and these questions remain unanswered..</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">This can happen too, but I don't think that this would help klingon to develop.</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">I really have a hard time accepting, that in the official mailing list of the klingon language institute, the policy goes by:</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">"don't you even think -let alone suggest- of asking 'oqranD".</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">~ nIghma'</span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 29, 2017 3:44 AM, "nIqolay Q" <<a href="mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com">niqolay0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 7:19 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">How long has the {ngIq} remained unclarified ? Why ? Is there a reason ?</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><b>vIqawchu'chugh</b>, <b>ngIq</b> was introduced at a <b>qep'a'</b> where Okrand asked Klingonists to look over the text of the opera<b> 'u'</b> that he'd translated, and discussion of new words was done entirely in Klingon. My guess is that nobody asked Okrand for more detail because they assumed they had it figured out from the examples even without a precise English gloss. Same with the question of number agreement with conjunctions -- people probably just went with what felt right without thinking of it as something worth asking about.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">Is it so hard, for someone who communicates with 'oqranD and organizes the qepHom, to compile a list with the grammar which needs clarification and send it to 'oqranD before the qepHom asking for clarification ? </span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It's possible that the people who have Okrand's email address don't think the questions are that pressing. It's also possible someone's already forwarded them to Okrand and we'll get answers in November. It'd be nice to have these questions answered. But I'm not the one who has to put time and effort into answering those questions, nor am I the one who has to directly ask Okrand for his time and effort, so I'm less inclined to demand that others do those things on my behalf.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">How many questions would there be ? a maximum of 10 ? Are they so many ?</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If I put my mind to it and I had a week to kill, I could probably come up with a hundred grammar questions. "How do we use this word" and "can we retcon this goof into grammatical Klingon" and "what is the preferred style or phrasing in this sentence" and "would this construction be interpreted the way I meant it to be interpreted" and so on.<br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div>
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