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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Not you, mayqel.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>SuStel<br>http://trimboli.name</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com">nIqolay Q</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:57 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org">tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Placement of adverbial elements</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:21 PM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 10/29/2017 2:01 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Since the <b>-Daq</b> is optional with verbs of motion like that, you can sidestep the problem entirely and just use the suffix that we know works here: <b>pa''e' nom yIjaH!</b></p></blockquote><p>The point of shifting the noun with <b>-'e'</b> is to reflect its grammatical emphasis by making it the first word you say. A locative noun is not a topic noun, so putting it first does not reflect its grammatical role.</p><p>Do what the book says here; don't invent new rules.</p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm not sure what new rule you think I've invented. Take a sentence like <b>pa' vIjaH</b>. Is <b>pa'</b> not the direct object of the motion verb? If it's the object, why can't it be topicalized and moved before an adverbial? If you wanted to emphasize <b>pa'</b> (as opposed to some other destination), why couldn't you put <b>-'e'</b> on it? The point of the question, as I read it, was what to do if you want to make the locative noun also the topic noun.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>